Should We allow armed concealed carry permit holders in national parks?

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Posted 5/6/2008 4:35:42 PM
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Already the anti-gun folks have come  up with scare tactics and untruths in the debate over whether or not to allow armed concealed firearm permit holders into national parks.

Diane Feinstein argues that allowing armed permit holders in the parks would encourage poaching.  She has already convicted and pre-judged permit holders by those remarks.  She puts forth an assumption that permit holders are not law-abiding and are prone to poaching in national parks.  Her remarks sound like the dire predictions of Dodge City-style shootouts over parking spaces when Florida liberalized its concealed carry laws.  The shootouts never happened and the antis had to eat crow.  The same will be true when armed permit holders are allowed the parks.  If fact, Mrs. Feinstein has or had at one time a concealed firearm permit, all the while opposing concealed carry for ordinary citizens.  She supposedly surrendered her firearms and had them melted down for some peace memorial. 

National parks are not crime-free paradises either.  Pot growers and drug dealers have been known to shoot at or kill hikers who just happen upon the growers' "terrain".  And let's not forget the two nurses murdered by the psycho in Yosemite National Park a few years ago.

Additionally, I know from experience that in remote mountain areas cell phone reception is low or non-existent.   You're essentially on your own in those areas.  If you're attacked are you gonna call the park ranger for help?  How? 

Now, with what I have to say now, you'll probably say I'm advocating poaching.  However, in isolated areas two-legged attackers aren't the only threat.  Large bears are a danger.  It seems ludicrous to prohibit backpackers from carrying some form of protection (something more potent than pepper spray) in the back country.  Anyone familiar with history knows about how mountain men, Jedediah Smith and Hugh Glass were attacked and nearly killed by grizzley bears.  Impossible in our day and age, you may say?  Wrong!

I work with someone who lived in Alaska for several years.  When he went fishing in the mountains, he always carried a .44 magnum handgun.  Most anyone with any sense also did.  Reports of persons defending themselves in such situation were not unheard of. 

As in the cities, criminals who carry illegally will always have the advantage where law-abiding citizens are prohibited from carrying firearms.  Gun control and gun bans could best be termed, "victim disarmament".   Bad guys never respect the law why the law-abiding citizens dutifully go unarmed---often with tragic results.    

Of course the anti-gun argument will always thrive on half-truths, exagerationis and emotion-ridden scare tactics, because that's all the anti-gun folks have to back themselves up. 

Thomas

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Posted 6/29/2008 9:03:47 AM
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Since any and all individuals who obtain concealed carry credentials are vetted by the law enforcement community where they live, the bad apples have already been weeded out. Why should our beautiful national parks and recreation areas be off limits to CCW holders and their weapons, if they choose to carry them?

Maybe what the national park system should do instead of banning CCW holders from toting inside their jurisdictions is vetting any and all visitors who wish to enter first by conducting, at minimum, a background check on all individuals, similar to a CCW permit, seeking entrance, and issuing an appropriate ID card.

Then civil libertarians could have a field day fighting THAT issue in the courts!

Sorry, but I just couldn't help myself on that comment. Those of us who seek to do the right things and are willing to comply by jumping through all the hoops set down by government departments and agencies and are approved, are in compliance with the laws that pertain to concealed carry laws, should be respected for doing so and left alone.
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Posted 11/6/2008 5:56:21 PM
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YES we should allow legally permitted persons to carry where ever they may roam.
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